Impound for Motorcycles

[RGV]

Just read in the minutes that motorcycles claiming class records will be impounded. For how long and for what reason/checks? I thought that if there was a dispute over class eligibility or capacity this might be the case. If I just set a record and my bike is impounded and the wind changes direction can I get my bike out and line up for another run ? We need more detail.

Dave

[Greg Watters]

As initial scrutineering is for safety items and not a class compliance check (too time consuming when there is many that need inspecting)

impound is to check class conformity and properly fill in the log book reflecting this before you are signed off on the record
may include capacity checks

not sure how the boss will want to do it this time around, but in the US at all meetings and associations, the bike capacity check can be done at any time and motor sealed , or sealed after setting a record and run again then capacity check at or near the end of the meeting

on some this may mean a top end tear down, again this may not be done this year but eventually if we want credibility of records must be done

[hawkwind]

Tearing off top ends MMMMMMM .........Control fuel and petrol checks????........Two way or double runs for a record ?????????.....Towing to and from the track????? .....hope the American accent is optional .

[ROSS BROWN]

Yes ..
We are looking at trialing "IMPOUND " this year.
Basically just checking that you have classed your bike correct..which will include checking "GAS" class bikes to ensure that they should not be running in
" Fuel " class.
As the man power is not yet available to be pullling engines down , that will not be undertaken unless someone lodges an official paid protest..

Time in impound should be no more than half an hour..

Ross.

[gennyshovel]

I HOPE I get the opportunity to get locked up in your correctional center Doo Dah
Tiny

[RGV]

Thanx Ross.

Dave

[rgn]

We are looking at trialing "IMPOUND " this year.
Basically just checking that you have classed your bike correct..which will include checking "GAS" class bikes to ensure that they should not be running in
" Fuel " class.
As the man power is not yet available to be pullling engines down , that will not be undertaken unless someone lodges an official paid protest..
Time in impound should be no more than half an hour.. Ross.

I think this is a very good step forward. No point having a set of rules if they are not adhered to, or respected. Cheers,
Ralph

[Stayt`ie]

dont fret it fellas, believe me, "theres no better place to be than in impound",, ya'll there for a very good reason, and thats a record, ,,, now if your running illegal, well, i guess ya gunna be a bit nervous, ,,,

[ROSS BROWN]

Am currently working out a procedure for impound..
Question..
How much time does the different Bonneville associations give a competitor to get from the end of the run to
impound ?
Ross.

[AuotonomousRX]

I think this is a great way to move forward.

By introducing a Basic Class inspection it gives us the chance to get used to going to Impound after our Run.

The Procedures can then be accessed after Speedweek to see how it went and where we go next.

If we want to, then we can move towards getting the resources to implement a Full Inspection in future years maybe?

At least we know what to expect in 2014, so recheck the Rule Book and make sure your Bike complies, any doubts, just ask.

Pete

[BONES]

Impound is a good idea
It won't take long to check for class eligibility
I have never had the pleasure to go to impound. Maybe 1/2 hour after the day time on the timing slip to present at impound
Maybe we can convince people about some of these non existant classes
800cc
900cc
production gas

Bones

[grumm441]

now all we need is someone to run it
G

[Stayt`ie]

Am currently working out a procedure for impound..
Question..
How much time does the different Bonneville associations give a competitor to get from the end of the run to
impound ?
Ross.

scene 1,,
from experience helping Richard Assen at a cuppla WOS events, it would usually take about twenty to thirty minutes to get him back to impound,, this is for the upper end bikes,, due to his speed Richard nearly always finished a run parked up at the eleven mile, ok, we had to get there from the startline,(we always tried to leave before he did) find him, check the bike for fire, do a bit of backslappin, have a drink of water, load the bike and then all bundle into the GMC and head straight back to impound five to six miles away,,,with the uhf in the car we always knew weather it was back to impound or the pits, ,

scene 2,,
at BUB with the FIM deal, i am always stopped by the eight, thay have officials there that notify you of your speed, if your up for a record thay supply an escort to escort you back to impound,, it usually takes five to ten minutes to get back, ,,,

[grumm441]

SCTA motorcycle Impound procedure

Qualifying Run
1. Write the time the vehicle arrives in impound on the top of the Timing
Slip and initial it.
2. Get the vehicle Inspection Sheet.
3. Get a blue Record Certification Sheet.
4. Staple Timing Slip to the back of the Record Certification Sheet.
5. Staple the Inspection Sheet to the back of the Record Certification
Sheet.
6. Enter the vehicle number, class codes, entry name, rider, time of run,
impound time, and long or short course on the Record Certification
Sheet.
7. Cross out Car Certification part.
8. Enter number of engines, engine make and number of cylinders.
9. If Gas class, either take a gas sample, write gauge number and initial
or write “Sealed” and initial. Maximum measurement is +16.00
Check mark ‘Gas Checked’.
10.If Fuel class, check mark “Fuel”.
11.Enter Frame Manufacturer and body/type/year.
12.Check to make sure frame class is correct. Check mark “Met Down”
and initial.
13.Put Record Certification Sheet into the “Qualified” book.
14.Write a sticky note that says “Must Finish Work By” with a time 4
hours after the impound check-in time and affix note to the vehicle.

Return Run
1. Write the time the vehicle arrives in impound on the top of the Timing Slip and
initial it.
2. Get the Record Certification Sheet from the “Qualified” book.
3. Check the two times to see if it does surpass the current record
4. If the times do not average more than the current record, return both timing slips
to the rider, remove the original Inspection Sheet and return it to the “Active
Vehicle” file. Write “Did Not Return” on the Record Certification Sheet and
place it in the back of the “Record” book.
5. If the average of the two runs exceeds the current record, write the return speed,
average speed, time of run and impound time on the Record Certification Sheet.
6. If Gas class, take a gas sample, write gauge number and initial. Check mark ‘Gas
Checked’. Maximum measurement is +16.00
7. Check to make sure frame class is correct. Check mark “Met Return” and initial.
Once frame certification is assured, sign name at “Frame Certified By” and date
under it. Write any comments if necessary.
8. Check to see if the engine has been previously sealed. A seal is good for 365 days.
If the seal is current and unbroken, locate seal data in the vehicle Log Book and
write the bore, stroke, calculated displacement and method of measurement on the
Record Certification Sheet. Write the name of the person who sealed the engine
and the date sealed on the “Sealed” line. Sign name at “Engine Certified By” and
date.
9. If the engine is not sealed or the seal is broken, measure the displacement of the
engine. Use either direct, hydraulic pump or air pump to measure the engine.
Write the bore, stroke and calculated displacement on the Record Certification
Sheet. Sign name at “Engine Certified By” and date.
10. In the vehicle Log Book, write “Set Bonneville displacement/class record of
xxx.xxx mph”. Write bore, stroke and displacement. Sign name and date. If
sealed, write date of seal.
11. If the rider would like the engine sealed after measurement, seal the engine and
write bore, stroke, displacement, date and sign your name in the vehicle Log
Book. Write name and date on the ‘Sealed” line of the Record Certification Sheet.
12. Give top blue Record Certification Sheet to rider, congratulate him/her and shake
hands. Explain entry in vehicle Log Book.
13. Put rest of Record Certification Sheet in the front of the “Records” book.
14. For any Record Certification Sheets left in the “Qualified” book after all return
runs are finished, write “Did Not Return” on the Record Certification Sheet and
remove the original Inspection Sheet. Put original Inspection Sheet back into the
“Active Vehicle” file and put the Record Certification Sheet in the back of the
“Record” book. If a rider asks, return his qualifying timing slip.

and regarding how long you have to report to impound we have Rule 1H

1.H RECORD BODY AND CLASS CERTIFICATION:

All record-breaking vehicles shall report immediately after their completed record run to the designated
area to be inspected by an appointed official for compliance with body class, engine displacement, and
technical requirements. Record-breaking engines shall not be removed from the chassis prior to
displacement inspection. Engine displacement measurement may be made with a DLRA approved
displacement device if the engine displacement is not within 3% of the upper or lower cubic inch break for
the class. All other engines will be measured by direct measurement of bore and stroke or swept volume.
All components shall be available for inspection upon request. Provision to attach a wire seal to the
engine shall be provided by the entrant. Following initial measurement and certification of the engine, a
wire seal can be attached to the engine so that the engine need not be disassembled in the event
additional records are set. Engine seals shall be good for one year, 365 days.
Record-setting engines which cannot be certified by direct measurement of the bore and stroke or with
the DLRA air pump may require special tools. The entrant shall provide any special tooling required to
measure an engine. The Technical Committee will certify special tools for accuracy. Any engine that
cannot be measured using the DLRA air pump or special tools will require disassembly for direct
measurement of cubic inch displacement.
After a new record has been established and there is a question as to the legality of the vehicle


G

[gennyshovel]

The "DLRA air pump" ?
Would that be your air pump Grumm?
Having trouble getting my head around measuring cylinder volume using a compressable medium?
Could this pump double as a solid waste disposal unit ?