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Build starting on a steam racer.

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:45 pm
by ReeceJames
Hello folks!

I'm an living and working out of Nowra, NSW. Trained as a computer scientist, working as an engineer and have capabilities that range from robotics, electronics, fiberglass, carpentry, machining, brazing, automation, PCB assembly... it's a long list :wink:

Specifically, I've built and designed steam engines since a little kid and have always been interested in racing. I've finally got the opportunity to apply all these skills to a single project...a steam racer.

So, after seeing the Pom's 'attempt' at the world record a year ago and that they've finally managed to get their kettle up to 148mph, I'm going to have a go.

Once again hello to everyone and I'll keep this space updated with the build as it progresses, more info and pictures to follow this weekend. :D

Reece

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:44 pm
by Rob
Welcome aboard Reece,

It should be an interesting build. I'm assuming you'll be going streamliner?

Cheers,
Rob

Streamliner or Lakester.

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:48 pm
by ReeceJames
Yep Rob, looking at either the streamliner or lakester. Probably going to end up in the streamliner, all depends on the body shape. Size wise it's going to be about the same size as a formula500 (see avatar), just with a much more appropriate bodyshape.

My steam engine's actually quite small, being a rotary design. (Still on paper as of this stage) I've also solved the three major failures of steam engines, loosing > 20% past the pistons, loss of temperature at the cylinders and providing constant lubrication. I think this will give me the edge as I can keep my engine quite small. :D

The steam generator shall consist of a small tube preheater and a larger tube steam coil. Both are going to have thermocouples all over them so that I can regulate the temperature and keep it in the green. The pressure I'm aiming for is 250psi. It's all the process valves that take up most of the room, along with a water preheater and steam coils. Glad weight's ya friend on the salt! :lol:

Oh and I used to live out at North Richmond as a kid, went to Colo High.

sorry but

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:09 am
by Dr Goggles
C'mon guys....STEAMLINER..

toot toot!!!, looking forward to seeing this project.

Don Noble's gonna be all over ya :lol:

Good on ya Reece

Dr G

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:12 pm
by Reverend Hedgash
Yep, all for it too, good work Reece.

On my list of "to dos" is to build a steam powered boat for use on one of the lakes around here for fishing. The amount of spare time I get it will be about 20 years away though...

I like the idea of having a cup of tea from the boiler, maybe you could have a tap installed?

rH+

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:48 pm
by Rob
You probably wouldn't recognise half of "Northo" now Reece.

The formula 500 looks to be a fairly short wheelbase, the longer the wheelbase the more stable it'll be or so the legend goes.

Certainly sounds like an interesting project in the works.

Goggles,

Got me laughing with the Don comment :lol:

Cheers,
Rob

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:42 pm
by ReeceJames
Rob: I reckon Sunny Side Cresent is still the same though... :lol:
The f500 in the photo was going to be my cheap testbed. Got it home, checked it out and the chassis's shot. On the plus side is the 40+ heim joints, rear end, front suspension that will certainly come in handy. The chassis design is also very clever in places, so I'm going to borrow parts of the design.

Goggles: I like the idea of a 'STEAMLINER', certainly a good name for it!

Reverend: The largest boiler I've built is a 6" diameter copper fire tube. The design for the 'Steamliner' is the reverse, a monotube steam generator, not really a boiler at all. Here's the current prototype, I think there's ~20m of copper in that coil. Only had an old oscillator handy at the time, so threw it on for the test. Interestingly, it was blowing the cylinders clean off the valve faces, a testament to the pressure and volume of steam from the coil. (No other boiler I have is capable of doing that!) It was running at ~110psi due to the mains pressure water feed.

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Oh and who's Don Noble? :shock:

Oh and who's Don Noble? Shocked

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:54 pm
by Cookey
Trust me you really don't want to know :P :P :P :P :P :P

Is Don , is good!

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:17 pm
by Dr Goggles
If he were one of the two Don would be a goat, not a sheep, strangely he moved to New Zealand.

Don is an enigma ...classical music and opera , Nissans and now of all things trains....occasionally you meet boring or unfriendly people out at the lake ...when you do rest assured, it's not Don.

http://www.dlra.org.au/forum/viewtopic. ... c&start=19

Re: Is Don , is good!

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:59 pm
by ReeceJames
Dr Goggles wrote:Don is an enigma ...classical music and opera , Nissans and now of all things trains....


Hah, sounds like a man after my own heart, though you can swap out the nissans for computers! Sounds like an interesting fella.

So a longer wheelbase is preferable, I'll keep that in mind.

I also have a question regarding chassis fabrication. I'm familiar with oxy-acetylene welding and am aware that it's a common way of chassis construction and repair, but can't see any reference to welding techniques in the rule book.

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:37 pm
by momec
Hello Reese,
provided your not related to Ben welcome aboard, we need someone new that sounds like a bit off a nerd with percuilar habits and other metal problems (speedway) that we could help...........
To take the piss out of.

I love the idea of steam but am a bit like the esteam Ed Rev Headgash and won't have enough lifetimes to explore it so we will just live our next lives with you son....

Chris

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:05 pm
by ben james
[quote="C Hanlon"]Hello Reese,
provided your not related to Ben welcome aboard
chris whatda ya mean by that

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:08 pm
by ben james
next year u ford owners will be eatin my dust
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:13 pm
by ben james
check it out stewie a photo of ollie, i read u mention her the other day when u were talking about grahams leg
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:44 pm
by DON NOBLE
STEAM ! STEAM ! , did I hear steam or was it just a faint wiff of coal burning.....
Can I be your fireman please sir . I am experienced , we had our 1927 Steam train engine cranked up to 21 kmh 2 weeks ago . Phenominal speed , hope you can handle it . They tell me that the human body cant possibly handle speeds much higher .... and if you get near 100kmh you will expire ( well that what the French said in 1900 )