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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by PeterB » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:28 am

grumm441 wrote: And it looks like we will have to setup a streamliner deviation committee for the DLRA
I was thinking Ross Brown, Greg Watters and Jon Bennet. As they seem to know the most about motorcycle streamliners
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... and they're all deviants?! :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol: :twisted: :lol:

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Note: The above is a tongue-in-cheek comment. I have not personally met Ross, Greg or Jon, but I'm sure they are fine upstanding gentlemen.

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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by Greg Watters » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:20 am

hey i'm just dipping a toe in the water here :wink: , still learning lots daily
but happy to be involved and do what i can
just will be hard to put much time in during the next couple of months, the 16 hr work days have started and pretty much all else is on hold

I have sent Van pics of the 750 liner , still to get a reply, but i expect that will come after all the rule change stuff goes through or doesn't .
and also had time to consider
A if they don't like it there are good AMA/FIM meets that it will be legal for in the US
B a rule change proposal can accompany the 2014 DLRA regs as there introduced

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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by AuotonomousRX » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:45 pm

Yes scientifically but to the ordinary person we measure a bike or our own weight.

"One newton (1N) is defined as force F that accelerates an object with mass of one kilogram (1kg) one meter per second each second (1m/sec²)."

How many kg in 1 N? The answer is 0.101971621. So using Vans Formula 480 x 9806 x 1000 = 470688000 whats? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :? :? :?

Ok, But how do you actually measure Newtons?

I like what JonB said.

Really these types of Significant Rule Changes that are about Safety need to be backed by actual Testing.

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I'll vote for a Deviant Committee no worries 8)
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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by grumm441 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:00 pm

AuotonomousRX wrote:Yes scientifically but to the ordinary person we measure a bike or our own weight.

x 9806 x 1000 = 470688000 whats? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :? :? :?

Ok, But how do you actually measure Newtons?
A newton metre is easy

The force exerted by one standard apple, falling one metre, on some guys head


Don't worry Greg, there are only about five liners to look at, and if you are too busy I will look at them twice
there is Ross's, Jon's, Ken's, Yours and Lucky's

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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by JonB » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:45 pm

And I'm just a simple bulldozer driver.....

So we have Australia's Southern most Rice farmer (with a landspeed record), a sidecar mad kiwi, and a bulldozer driver.
What could go wrong? :evil:

I guess we had to get deviant, Goggles is "Special", by himself ;)

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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by AuotonomousRX » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:19 am

Hey Grumm

Then a 1 tonne Liner should be able to withstand 470688000 Apples.

How many Apples will The Boss Liner have to withstand to Pass Tech?

And what constitutes a Standard Apple? Granny Smiths or Johnathon's.

Testing these Liners could send the DLRA broke at $3.99 a Kilo.

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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by grumm441 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:04 pm

AuotonomousRX wrote:Hey Grumm

Then a 1 tonne Liner should be able to withstand 470688000 Apples.

How many Apples will The Boss Liner have to withstand to Pass Tech?

And what constitutes a Standard Apple? Granny Smiths or Johnathon's.

Testing these Liners could send the DLRA broke at $3.99 a Kilo.

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Don't worry , she'll be apples
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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by ROSS BROWN » Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:57 pm

In answer to everyones response..
............... :mrgreen: ............
Did enjoy PETER B's response with that catchie little UTUBE number.... :lol:

Did all my childhood learnin from comic books..
Did all my teenage learnin from the lids of beer bottles...
Can't remember much learnin after that...
But now we have....... UTUBE... :D No excuse for being a halfwit anymore... 8)

But anyway....
The....... BUILD CONTINUES.......

As promised , the steering links.
Tacked in and in need of A tidy up .. but works fine. these contraption looking parts
are under the floor behind the seat.. the other little idler link is part of the gear shift..

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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by ROSS BROWN » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:12 pm

"ALL GOOD" we have had a reprieve on the new cage rule..
There was a lot happening behind the scenes proir to this new outcome , and there is a lot of people that I am yet to meet, to thank..
Kent Riches ,long time racer and current owner of at least three streamliners was at the meeting , wrote up this piece on landracing .com
of the outcome..
Thank you for your efforts Kent..

Ross.


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Well…. We arrived at the meeting tonight to a sold out house… it seems everyone and their brother was there to speak on one issue or another… Quite a bit of discussion on the vintage ignition issue, the “top chop” issues, and some door handle and trim on roadster issues…. I tryed to act interested and even acted like i was taking notes just in case Mr Warner looked over at me..... But Mr. Warner and President Lattin were busy doing a fine job keeping the momentum going on a busy night right up to the point when the floor was handed over to Mr. Butler to handle the Bike side of the rule changes…. Well, ya win some and ya loose some…. I gotta say this frame rule thing was without a doubt the most uncomfortable debate of the evening… You could see people kinda kringe, lower their eyes with an overall "oh crap here it comes" attitude take over the atmosphere... Oh, in case you guys don’t know, all of the Christmas toys for the Kids of El Mirage were stolen… A hat was passed around and over $500 was raised to help buy the kids some Christmas joy….. Ok back to my story….. Well Van had his say, then Mr. Cook raised some very good questions that engineer John Bjorkman answered quite well… Tom Evans made probably the first very passionate, strong argument I have ever seen him make….. Fortunately against the change, he spoke well… Then a motion was made to pass, but with no second…. Some more discussion made from Russ Eyers and Mike Watters…. Things were dragging along I was hoping there wasn’t going to be a second… I was hoping, praying President Lattin would say ”we don’t have a second, the rule change is dead, let’s move on” then out of the back came the dreaded ”Second”…… Crap!….. Crap! Now I was gonna have to stand up and say something….. I don’t know if you have ever been in this kind or situation, but for me it is very uncomfortable and difficult to stand up in front of people you respect and have to argue a point against your friend….. Even if you win, you lose…. I spoke my mind and opinion… Then it goes to vote… I will add that Van and those behind this rule change have a good heart. They think and wish the safety of all the competitors and are just as passionate of their views just as I am of mine…. The vote was close, 9 to 8….. The rules as originally written in 1971 and unchanged through the 2012 rule book will remain the same for 2013….. I would like to say I’m happy to announce this, but it raises a question in the back of my head that asks if I did the right thing…. Did I put my friends in possible danger? Did I put myself in danger cuz I race one of them Dodge things too? Some very good points have been brought up from both sides over the last few weeks…. What if?.... When all was said and done, I made a suggestion to the board that a committee should be formed to evaluate this question of chassis safety… Can what we are doing be made safer? A streamliner is supposed to be the pinnacle of design and innovation… Man and the best machine possible…. Are we restricting and holding ourselves back with archaic steel tubing? Today we won the battle, and today I lost 2 friends….
Kent


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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by grumm441 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:25 pm

I think also Tom Evans had a lot to do with it as well
he as never a fan of the rule change and his opinion would have caried a lot of weight
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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by ROSS BROWN » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:30 pm

.....UPDATE...
Been a while..
progress has been made , all be it slow
The carrier for the bike had to go to its next stage before any of the under panels could be made..
As there is a change of shape at the front of this panel 3 zippers had to be put in.
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Came up not to bad after welding .. but some work to do...

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STINKIN "PHOTO BUCKET" :evil: :evil: actually do have another name for it .that I cant use here
1 HOUR to upload 2 pictures I will try again tomorrow..
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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by ROSS BROWN » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:06 pm

Two pictures at a time..

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More tommorrow..
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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by RGV » Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:06 pm

Looking good Ross

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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by grumm441 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:15 pm

Mmmm
Shiny

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Re: BOSS STREAMLINER S/UF 925

Post by ChrisACT » Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:30 pm

That is inspirational, Ross.

Needs rockets, though. :P

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