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I wouldn't even attempt it on dial up! Come on guys it's 2007! We have broadband internet, mobile phones, PDAs, fuel injection, data logging and fast food. Get with the times! I'm mucking around with an IP phone system at the moment getting it to route unwanted calls (relatives) to voicemail and all other calls to the handset. Indian call centres no longer ring me since I registered via the net on the "do not call" register. When we lived in Sydney we used to do our grocery shopping via Woolies.com.au. I do (almost) everything over the net these days, especially research.
Get the broadband guys you won't regret it!
Here's some other photo's in the interest of fairness and to rub it in, starting with Don Noble's new all alloy monster motor:
Matt's Fiat (Fix It Again Tony):
And Bob Ellis's Ford (First On Race Day)
Thanks
Lynchy
Get the broadband guys you won't regret it!
Here's some other photo's in the interest of fairness and to rub it in, starting with Don Noble's new all alloy monster motor:
Matt's Fiat (Fix It Again Tony):
And Bob Ellis's Ford (First On Race Day)
Thanks
Lynchy
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progress?
wouldn't even attempt it on dial up! Come on guys it's 2007! We have broadband internet, mobile phones, PDAs, fuel injection, data logging and fast food. Get with the times! I'm mucking around with an IP phone system at the moment getting it to route unwanted calls (relatives) to voicemail and all other calls to the handset. Indian call centres no longer ring me since I registered via the net on the "do not call" register. When we lived in Sydney we used to do our grocery shopping via Woolies.com.au. I do (almost) everything over the net these days, especially research.
Get the broadband guys you won't regret it!
You know , the sad thing is what with all the advances in technology and increases in efficiency and reductions in size it ain't the things we now have that are the big deal but rather the things we still have that all this tech could get rid of.................
...few understand what I'm trying to do , but they vastly outnumber those who understand why..
Update 19/9/07
Time for another update on "International Talk Like A Pirate Day":
Arrrrrrrr!! There be some more progress me hearties!
Gaz has sent me some more photo's now that he's got both wheeltubs in position and the NASCAR roof flaps have arrived. We'll start with the tubs:
There is still some more work to be done as the lower edge of the tub at the front and rear needs to be extended down further and the inner wall of the tub needs to be notched for the diff + further sheetmetak work, sealing, painting etc etc. The photo's don't really do it justice - it is really fat at the back, reminds me of a Queen song..... "Get on your bikes and ride!"
The roof flaps arrived and got straight to work causing problems. They are pretty big and the Jag roof is not. They are OK as far as depth goes but all 3 will not fit in the roof. One possible solution is to just run with 2 in the roof, another possibility is 2 in the roof and one in the boot:
I was on the Landracing.com website today and there is a thread about a NASCAR that ran at Bonneville. It started out a bit catty but then improved. Discussion was about a spin that occured at about 180mph and there were a series of photo's of the spin. What can be seen is the roof flaps open when the car is heading backwards so it would seem that they do their job. Another car that runs at Bonneville with roof flaps is Hooley's Studebaker. He had a spin a while back and he popped his flaps open (his are manually activated Vs the NASCAR where they work on air pressure) they also fully opened when backwards. So we are comfortable that they work and will be a worthwhile safety addition to the car, it's now a matter of getting them in BUT how many?? The logical ones are the 2 in the roof but they need to be modified to fit as they do not match the contour of the roof. The easy one is the one in the boot as it can go straight in - Problem is, where do you stop. 3 is probably overkill given the surface area of the things but the 3rd one is an easy fit?? It will probably end up with 3 as we've already got them, they'll fit and it's extra insurance + Gaz's old car that the motor is out of was known as "OVAKIL", people in Sydney may know it, so he is already predisposed to going overboard.
Another part of the discussion was along the lines of tyre width and how wide NASCAR like tyres tend to cause cars to spin out while skinny land speeders are better for straight line stability. Anyone else had any experiences along these lines? The NASCAR owner didn't seem to think the tyres made much difference as the car generally ran on line with no problems and claimed the wet salt and inexperience contributed to the spin. They ultimately went 220.xxx MPH, they were after 221 but just missed out. They said the motor was a spare part special but it put out 800HP!!!
Here's a detail shot of the flap:
If nothing else, it'll give us somewhere to hide the keys! The flaps won't go in for a while, there are better things to do before that plus we need to give some thought as to how they are to be opened - air pressure? or spring loaded with a release? Air pressure would be an automatic thing and you don't want to have to reach for a release half way into a 200MPH spin but at the same time, you want the sucker open and ready to work rather than wondering why you are suddenly upside down, backwards and looking up to a hard salt wall! Ever seen a video of a salt car getting airborne, it doesn't look pleasant!!
Lynchy
Arrrrrrrr!! There be some more progress me hearties!
Gaz has sent me some more photo's now that he's got both wheeltubs in position and the NASCAR roof flaps have arrived. We'll start with the tubs:
There is still some more work to be done as the lower edge of the tub at the front and rear needs to be extended down further and the inner wall of the tub needs to be notched for the diff + further sheetmetak work, sealing, painting etc etc. The photo's don't really do it justice - it is really fat at the back, reminds me of a Queen song..... "Get on your bikes and ride!"
The roof flaps arrived and got straight to work causing problems. They are pretty big and the Jag roof is not. They are OK as far as depth goes but all 3 will not fit in the roof. One possible solution is to just run with 2 in the roof, another possibility is 2 in the roof and one in the boot:
I was on the Landracing.com website today and there is a thread about a NASCAR that ran at Bonneville. It started out a bit catty but then improved. Discussion was about a spin that occured at about 180mph and there were a series of photo's of the spin. What can be seen is the roof flaps open when the car is heading backwards so it would seem that they do their job. Another car that runs at Bonneville with roof flaps is Hooley's Studebaker. He had a spin a while back and he popped his flaps open (his are manually activated Vs the NASCAR where they work on air pressure) they also fully opened when backwards. So we are comfortable that they work and will be a worthwhile safety addition to the car, it's now a matter of getting them in BUT how many?? The logical ones are the 2 in the roof but they need to be modified to fit as they do not match the contour of the roof. The easy one is the one in the boot as it can go straight in - Problem is, where do you stop. 3 is probably overkill given the surface area of the things but the 3rd one is an easy fit?? It will probably end up with 3 as we've already got them, they'll fit and it's extra insurance + Gaz's old car that the motor is out of was known as "OVAKIL", people in Sydney may know it, so he is already predisposed to going overboard.
Another part of the discussion was along the lines of tyre width and how wide NASCAR like tyres tend to cause cars to spin out while skinny land speeders are better for straight line stability. Anyone else had any experiences along these lines? The NASCAR owner didn't seem to think the tyres made much difference as the car generally ran on line with no problems and claimed the wet salt and inexperience contributed to the spin. They ultimately went 220.xxx MPH, they were after 221 but just missed out. They said the motor was a spare part special but it put out 800HP!!!
Here's a detail shot of the flap:
If nothing else, it'll give us somewhere to hide the keys! The flaps won't go in for a while, there are better things to do before that plus we need to give some thought as to how they are to be opened - air pressure? or spring loaded with a release? Air pressure would be an automatic thing and you don't want to have to reach for a release half way into a 200MPH spin but at the same time, you want the sucker open and ready to work rather than wondering why you are suddenly upside down, backwards and looking up to a hard salt wall! Ever seen a video of a salt car getting airborne, it doesn't look pleasant!!
Lynchy
Range Rover Salt Lake Limo
Things are getting silly now! Gaz has been gifted what could become the ultimate salt lake limo / push car! Can you see this baby down the lake??
I think he's smiling because he got it for free! If no-one wanted it, it would have been off to Simsmetal the following week. Would you believe he got it home, fitted a spare fuel pump and fired it up. It runs OK but is a little rough due to being out in the weather for a while.
Apparently (so the story goes), it left the factory as a 4 door and was stretched for a wealthy Arab customer. It made it's way to Australia and was registered by the second owner. Gaz is now it's third. It's a bit rusty in places due to living near the beach but otherwise is OK.
He promises me it is at the bottom of the (rather long) projects list and the Jag is priority number 1. He also picked up a couple of fire extinguisher bottles for the car. They are a bit different to the ones used for mock up but are the same diameter, they are just a bit taller.
I'm heading down to Sydney again for a visit in a few weeks time and will get out to Big Gaz's Range Rover Ranch and take a few more photo's.
Lynchy
I think he's smiling because he got it for free! If no-one wanted it, it would have been off to Simsmetal the following week. Would you believe he got it home, fitted a spare fuel pump and fired it up. It runs OK but is a little rough due to being out in the weather for a while.
Apparently (so the story goes), it left the factory as a 4 door and was stretched for a wealthy Arab customer. It made it's way to Australia and was registered by the second owner. Gaz is now it's third. It's a bit rusty in places due to living near the beach but otherwise is OK.
He promises me it is at the bottom of the (rather long) projects list and the Jag is priority number 1. He also picked up a couple of fire extinguisher bottles for the car. They are a bit different to the ones used for mock up but are the same diameter, they are just a bit taller.
I'm heading down to Sydney again for a visit in a few weeks time and will get out to Big Gaz's Range Rover Ranch and take a few more photo's.
Lynchy
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Gotta have something to
compliment with/contrast against the car.
We've talked about jacking it up with big wheels/tyres on it. It would be a good contrast - really tall monster truck pushing really low Shaguar. It will also be a good bus for trips to and from the shearing shed to the lake / canteen.
Lynchy
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Jeez the whole Shaguar team just gets more porn as time goes by.
Having worked in Dubai I can tell you the Arabs do love their four wheel drives and regularly indulge in what's called "Dune Bashing".
Typically their vehicle of choice are Toyota Landcruisers as they lasted longer than other cars and yank cars are considered a bad joke.
They took a serious amount of bashing let me tell you... and when combined with temperatures in the 50's, 80% humidity, and sand storms deserve any credit they can get.
rH+
Having worked in Dubai I can tell you the Arabs do love their four wheel drives and regularly indulge in what's called "Dune Bashing".
Typically their vehicle of choice are Toyota Landcruisers as they lasted longer than other cars and yank cars are considered a bad joke.
They took a serious amount of bashing let me tell you... and when combined with temperatures in the 50's, 80% humidity, and sand storms deserve any credit they can get.
rH+
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