Toyota primus (or any other hyrid)

[nitro-nige]

Just a crazy question that came out of a discussion at work.

Would a toyota primus be considered a vehicle with two engines as seeing that it has a petrol motor and an electric motor? And if so does that mean that it would have to run in the streamliner class?

Alternatively would it be classified as an electric class car or do electric cars have to run only off batteries?

Back to the daydreaming
Nige.

[DLRA 112]

I think it would be in a class all on its own. Hybrid.

[DLRA]

Hmm, Toyota Primus, yep I'd like to see that. Cook your snags and boil the kettle at 150 clicks. Natual Gas is still GAS class.



I think you mean a Toyota Prius

[hawkwind racing]

It would come under omega class as the wheels are driven by electric motor ,battries are charged by IC engine
gary

[w3stie]

We had a Prius at work. Accelerates really well when you sink the wellie. That's because it's using the petrol engine and electric motor together at full throttle. It also has a very low CD so could potentially go quite fast. They had one up to 130 mph at boneville http://hybridcars.about.com/od/news/a/p ... dspeed.htm

Details

The specially prepared Toyota Prius - the largest selling hybrid car in history - broken previous hybrid speed records, reaching 130.8 miles per hour (210.49 km/h) on a 3 kilometer plus track.

The changes made were: stripping out the interior to reduce weight, the gear ratio changed from 4.32:1 to 3.2:1, and the inverter voltage was increased from 500 volts to 550 volts. The transmission was also fitted with a new cooling system to reduce problems issues with the transmission and inverter adjustments. The racing Prius was also lowered by 5 inches to make it more aerodynamic. , and a roll cage was added.

[Brootal]

... It also has a very low CD so could potentially go quite fast.

I heard that as well, not just a low CD, but also designed to have zero lift (very handy).

Stuff a proper motor in it, I'm thinking mid-mounted Hemi, then it could be a real good car!

[Dr Goggles]

Stuff a proper motor in it, I'm thinking mid-mounted Hemi, then it could be a real good car!

.then it would be a Priapus , not a Prius it goes deeper than we think Broot' (and you'd appreciate it being a Moper)...all it needed was "ap"..............

In all seriousness though would it be Omega Gary coz as W3stie said it's got two engines running at once at full whack.......it's illegal to run a blower powered with an electric motor aint it? so where would the Prius be?

[hawkwind racing]

yep omega , firstly as explained its the electric motor driving the wheels , the petrol engine is a battry charger ,and secondly the rules state no more than one ENGINE there is a difference between MOTOR & ENGINE so it only has one engine
Gary

[Lynchy]

.then it would be a Priapus , not a Prius it goes deeper than we think Broot' (and you'd appreciate it being a Moper)...all it needed was "ap"..............

Hey Goggles - have you been learning to form sentences from Jack D??? Where's that gibberish to english dictionary again??

Lynchy

[DON NOBLE]

I have seen an electric powered vehicle ( streamliner ) go over 200 mph @ Bonneville . It just went ..... silently along ... not even a whoosh . mmm i like some noise dont you ?

[REAL Stan]

if you dont like the dlra rules so much why bother with it Gordon.(D)
so negitive......

[Dr Goggles]

Nice to have you back Gordon you miserable cheese dicked dingbat , before making a statement like 2./ you might want to re-read what you said in 1./.....close , but no cigar I'm afraid , and delightfully, you've contradicted yourself apart from throwing in some gems like ..."the electric motor is provides power from the batteries".........oh, does it just? .................. It is very touching to see that you continue to hang around and watch the goings on here when you obviously hold it all in such contempt .Anyway , keep up the good work and keep carrying that axe , BTW hows that fire-breathing Clio?

1./Not true at all. That is NOT how the drive train of a Prius works. The electric motor only adds its power to whatever power the petrol engine is delivering. When the car stops the petrol motor switches off. When the battery has plenty of charge in it and you only press the accelerator lightly, like in stop-start traffic, the petrol motor stays off and the electric motor is provides power from the batteries. If you press the accelerator harder the petrol engine starts and the power from both electric and petrol motors are driving the car. When the car is up to speed the electric motor cuts out and all the power is coming from the petrol motor. And when you take your foot off the throttle or brake the electric motor switches to being a generator and recharges the battery. So, yes, this is a vehicle with two separate engines able to drive the car separately or together.

2./The Prius is just one more victim of the DLRA's 1950s rules that don't allow for any of the advances in technology that have occurred in the last half century.

[David Leikvold]

Gordon, you're right about the Prius drive train but you're wrong about the DLRA rules. Already we have a new class for utes that suits us more than the SCTA and our rules evolve as we learn more about what makes sense for us and what doesn't. I bet if someone turned up with a Prius with all the required safety gear (rollcage, fire extinguishers, etc) they'd let it run and create a Hybrid class. Why don't you just build something for lakester or streamliner classes where the eligibility rules are wide open and your imagination can really be put to good use?

[Lynchy]

The Prius is just one more victim of the DLRA's 1950s rules that don't allow for any of the advances in technology that have occurred in the last half century.

So I take it you took one to scrutineering and they knocked you back?? Otherwise that would just be speculation, wouldn't it??? Great to have you back Gordy, I got the best laugh from Goggles response

[DLRA]

I knew I remembered something about these little buggers.....

Ran in HYBRID class! Barred from every one of Bonneville's 543 classes, the Toyota Prius creates a new one. Clocked 130.794 mph on the three-mile short course at Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, US in 2004.





http://www.caranddriver.com/features/8695/sport-got-hybrid.html